Interviews about backyard rinks, outdoor skating, and shinny hockey. First, author, musician and CBC personality Grant Lawrence describes the backyard rink of dreams he built during the chilly Vancouver winter of 2016-17. He also discusses hockey bullying and his book 'The Lonely End of the Rink'. The second interview features Chuck Temple, illustrator of the best-selling children's book series Brady Brady, discussing how he captures in art a child's thrill of skating on a backyard rink. Hosted by Robert McLeman, geography professor at Wilfrid Laurier University and co-founder of the RinkWatch citizen science project.Links: www.grantlawrence.ca, www.bradybrady.com, www.rinkwatch.org, www.reimerwattsmusic.com